Sunday, January 15, 2006

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Please join our atc group at:

What does the term "Outsider Art" mean to you?

I have seen this term several times, but in various situations. Such as: It can sometimes be applied to art created by those not formally trained. Sometimes it means art by an artist not represented by a gallery. Sometimes it refers to a style - as in one that is outside the bounds of culture's accepted norms for beauty or aesthetic. What does the term mean to you?

Wednesday, October 05, 2005

Copy vs Original Question II

Do you state up front that you only trade originals? Do you expect to be told if the trader is trading copies. If you are the person trading copies, are you up front about what you are trading? If you did a 3/3 blind trade(as an example) would you be upset if you sent originals, and received copies in return? How often has this happened to you?

Monday, September 26, 2005

Question on Mail Art Calls

I have been requested to put up this question:

Mail art - Would you participate in a call for International Mail Art knowing you were only going to receiving documentation. Not a catalogue. AND Would you pay to participate in an International Mail Art Call IF monies were going towards producing a catalogue ...

Tuesday, September 20, 2005

Why do you trade Artist Trading Cards?

Why do you like trading ATC's? Some people get a rush just from the trade itself. Like bidding at an auction or closing an important sale. For others it's the collection itself. They want ownership of the little masterpieces and to watch their collection grow. Still others, like the exchange and interaction with other artists who share the same passion, the collection is secondary to the discussion that took place during the trade. I myself try to strike a balance. I don't trade as often as other people do, but I can tell you a bit about a each card, and hopefully a bit about each person I trade with. What are your thoughts on this?

Wednesday, September 07, 2005


Part of a post that PatiB put on the Paintnthings website read
" There is a discussion ongoing regarding censorship versus what is appropriate to post on web sites that are open to the general public. There have been some questions of personal sensibilities, questionable images, exploitation of the female figure, and so on ... a very interesting subject paired with mailart and non-censorship issues".

What is your view on censorship versus what is appropriate to post on websites that are open to the general public?
What is your view on censorship in the arts in general?

How long do you spend on each ATC?

How long do you spend (on average) creating each card? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I spend about 3 hourse (give or take depending on the card) on each card. I'm not saying you should, or shouldn't. It's just what I do. I have a hard time getting a lot of cards ahead to trade. Anyone else in the same boat?

Monday, July 25, 2005

Digital vs Handcrafted Artist Trading Cards (ATCs)

More and more people are making digital atc's. There is lots of computer software out there that enables the digital artist to make wonderful and complex images. Some digital atc's require more time and energy to make than some handcrafted ones. Do you think digital should be considered "handcrafted"?

Thursday, July 14, 2005

selling vs not selling ATCs

A controversial subject at the moment in the ATC world. My personal opinion is that they should not be sold. Selling in my opinion goes against the entire concept of "trading" cards, but there is always someone who is going to capitalize on an idea. How does one go about protesting the selling of ATCs? There is no way to stop it. You can ignore it, but it just isn't going to go away. There will be those that trade, and there will be those that sell. We will all just have to learn to live with it.

Copy vs Original Artist Trading Cards (ATCs)

I received this from "Don Mabie" in an email and thought it was such an interesting topic. I'm not sure that I agree with what he is saying, but it does let you see the other side of the "coin" for those who trade copies.
Direct Quote:

There are a number of "issues" that seem to be making the rounds in the ATC world and one of them is the original versus copy issue. This seems to be about quality and the quality of cards is a complicated issue --- I dont think it is as simple as orginal vs copies.I am "upset" at times by the lack of quality, or, the effort some people put into their cards --- but I dont think that original vs copy really addresses the issue. I make and trade a lot of copies at our Trading Sessions in Calgary, on occasion I arbitrarily decide to only trade originals and I trade these originals for other originals or copies --- a card is a card is a card is a card.My process for making some of my cards can involve producing an 8.5 x 11 inch drawing that could take some 15 to 20 hours to complete --- I then scan the drawing into my computer and usually manipulate the image on my computer, and that can take another 5, 10, 15 hours --- so, some cards can take 20 to 30 (or more) hours to produce and I might print three sheets of cards, that is 27 cards, so, each card could have something like an hour or more of time invested in it (or course I can make more copies if I wish). Lets say someone trades me one of their originals, this is an original that took them 20 minutes to produce, so, my question would be why is that original necessarily "better" than my copy? I trade my copies for originals and, to be candid, in some cases I was very disappointed in the originals I get in trade. But, I dont want to be negative --- to me THE TRADE IS THE THING. The process of trading is more important (in the end) than the card being traded for. I usually (not always) trade for images and not for "quality" --- I usually ignore the matter of whether the card I am trading for is an original or a copy, but, it is becoming more and more of an issue. I personally think that worrying about copies vs originals is not in keeping with the spirit of ATCs, but, that is only my opinion. With that said, it is a very complicated issue that is certainly ongoing and I dont think there is any one answer but these are my thoughts.Also, depending on how one defines original, all cards created from scratch (completely) on a computer would, most likely, be considered to be copies, even though there is not really an original per se. There are some ATC artists that only create on a computer.Also, the original vs copies issue could exclude photocards as they are copies from a negative or from a digital file.I also must say that I do on occasion trade more than one card for a card in trade, that is, if I select a card from someone that is very time consuming and I dont feel the card they have selected from me is a fair trade I will suggest that they take another card, or three or four cards (I have traded as many as nine cards for one).I should also state that I have never refused to trade with anyone and I never would refuse to trade with someone because I felt the "quality" of their card was not up to snuff, or, because it was a copy. To refuse to trade is against the spirit of ATCs in my opinion.